How about some pics of the Profitec?

 

Here it is. It takes up a bit more space than the Silvano, slightly taller and wider but still looks pretty good I think. Coffee tastes good as well!

 

Kevin,

Are you enjoying your machine, brought mine around 3 months ago and loving it, what beans have you been putting though it and what grinder are you pairing it with?

Simon P - How are you getting on with yours

 

Now this is a spanner in the works. I had pretty already much decided on an R58 but this machine looks great.

It addresses 1 of my biggest potential gripes about the R58, the dreaded external PID, and the shot timer takes it the next level

My other issue with the Rocket is requiring the PID to be connected to shut of the steam boiler. I don't drink ever so many milky drinks, so most of the time it would be switched off. Having to go and get the PID, move everything out of the way and hook it up would be really annoying.

The Profitec has a handy little button under the drip tray

Aaron

 

One question Kevin - I notice your PID is set at 94c, does the PID on this machine take care of the offset at the grouphead?

I know on my Auber PID I have to set at about 105c to get 94c at the group.

Aaron

 

I'm sure you could programme the Auber to cater for the offset too... my Duetto does it, and even the cheap Rex C100 PIDs from eBay will do it...

 

I'm sure you could programme the Auber to cater for the offset too... my Duetto does it, and even the cheap Rex C100 PIDs from eBay will do it...

Perhaps, not too bothered now to be honest as it is getting replaced next month

 

Now this is a spanner in the works. I had pretty already much decided on an R58 but this machine looks great.

It addresses 1 of my biggest potential gripes about the R58, the dreaded external PID, and the shot timer takes it the next level

My other issue with the Rocket is requiring the PID to be connected to shut of the steam boiler. I don't drink ever so many milky drinks, so most of the time it would be switched off. Having to go and get the PID, move everything out of the way and hook it up would be really annoying.

The Profitec has a handy little button under the drip tray

Aaron

Aaron, Check out the Alex Duetto when you go down to BB, has the built in PID like this one, but in my opinion looks better.

 

One question Kevin - I notice your PID is set at 94c, does the PID on this machine take care of the offset at the grouphead?

I know on my Auber PID I have to set at about 105c to get 94c at the group.

Aaron

My machine has a shot timer , previous to this i never really though they were of much cop or id get any use from them -if they were built into the machine that is .

I would miss it though if it wasn't there now

 

Aaron, Check out the Alex Duetto when you go down to BB, has the built in PID like this one, but in my opinion looks better.

Thanks Dave, but I had already ruled this one out. I don't like the look of it

 

My machine has a shot timer , previous to this i never really though they were of much cop or id get any use from them -if they were built into the machine that is .

I would miss it though if it wasn't there now

I was of the same mind. I never saw the need for one, what is wrong with a kitchen timer. But since I have had the Auber PID on the classic I have found the timer super useful. It is just one less thing to worry about when pulling a shot.

Even I find a way to mount the Rocket PID and keep it connected all the time (which I want to do so I can easily switch steam boiler on and off), I still won't have a shot timer. I suppose at that point though, I would be paying £100 extra for a shot timer.

 

The Profitec looks even nicer in the flesh. I saw one at BB a few months ago and thought it was a beautiful machine, so well made and unbelievably quiet. Sacrilege I know, but personally thought it looked even better than the R58!

 

The more I look at it JGF, the more I am inclined to agree.

I much prefer the angular side panel design on the Profitec vs the curved Rocket.

That said, I much prefer the steam and hot water valves on the rocket.

This is going to be a hard decision.

Good to know there are some Profitec users on here who can help fight the machines corner

 

You've changed!!

 

You've changed!!

I know!! I am ashamed Dave. I have wanted an R58 for so long. And I was prepared to allow it's flaws in favour of it's looks.

But now, there is a machine without the flaws and equally good, if different looks!

This is like choosing which of your children is your favourite. Good job I don't have any

 

R58's are the SJ of he machine world. Why buy a machine on looks? Surely it should be based on taste, but I would defy you to tell me which coffee was made by a Rocket and which buy a Profitec if presented with one of each!

 

I don't imagine I could.

It purely boils down to which one is more convenient.

It is tit for tat at that level

 

R58's are the SJ of he machine world. Why buy a machine on looks? Surely it should be based on taste, but I would defy you to tell me which coffee was made by a Rocket and which buy a Profitec if presented with one of each!

Agree but One might be nicer and easier to use - to get to the same result though or just make someone happier by looking at it ( as you say they are both equal in the cup , then being happy with the aesthetics actually becomes a consideration )

 

R58's are the SJ of he machine world. Why buy a machine on looks? Surely it should be based on taste, but I would defy you to tell me which coffee was made by a Rocket and which buy a Profitec if presented with one of each!

Who buys an SJ for looks?

 

I have no idea how I am going to choose between the R58 and the profitec 700

Eek

 

I have no idea how I am going to choose between the R58 and the profitec 700

Eek

Toss a coin...

 

It might end up being as scientific as that. Both have shortcomings for me. Although the shortcomings on the profitec are only aesthetic

 

It might end up being as scientific as that. Both have shortcomings for me. Although the shortcomings on the profitec are only aesthetic

Both will make great espresso at the end of the day

 

I had an espresso made by a profitec today. Lovely looking machine, super quiet, great espresso and the owner hasn't had it too long...

 

It is a really tricky choice Mr O. I bet both machines produce amazing coffee and I would never be able to tell the difference.