[Dylan]

So David, if I'm understanding your theory right, the wider the range of particle sizes, the more flavours available? Following this to it's logical conclusion, wouldn't a whirly blade grinder be best with roughly chopped beans & powder in the same dose, or wrap your beans in a tea towel & whack them with a hammer? Shouldn't then a Porlex, or Skerton be knocking commercial burr grinders into a cocked hat?

Also, if the "flavours" available are actually more a result of defects (underextraction of large particles & overextraction of smaller particles) are these representative the "flavour" of the coffee itself, or masking the coffee's flavour through unevenness?

There is some truth in what dfk says, although it may be a simplification. The EK is known for its 'clarity' (which some dont enjoy) because of the even-ness of the particle sizes. A greater variation means a greater variation in the cup, the 'balance' is whats important.

 

[Mrboots2u]

Does that mean other coffee is " vague " then?

Confused

 

[4085]

So David, if I'm understanding your theory right, the wider the range of particle sizes, the more flavours available? Following this to it's logical conclusion, wouldn't a whirly blade grinder be best with roughly chopped beans & powder in the same dose, or wrap your beans in a tea towel & whack them with a hammer? Shouldn't then a Porlex, or Skerton be knocking commercial burr grinders into a cocked hat?

Also, if the "flavours" available are actually more a result of defects (underextraction of large particles & overextraction of smaller particles) are these representative the "flavour" of the coffee itself, or masking the coffee's flavour through unevenness?

Mark, I merely explained in a picture drawing sort of way, a method of someone who does not understand flat v conical having an idea. Having owned many of both, the spectrum explanation is a very good one, toe explain why the same bean ground the same way etc etc produces a markedly different flavour or range of flavours. it is not a theory although you are quite welcome to dissect it and draw your own conclusions, if you wish.

 

[Mrboots2u]

Does that mean other coffee is " vague " then?

Confused

I think some of the metaphors being used are a little confusing at the moment

 

[Dylan]

Has anyone ever tried a mixed roast? So a 'balance' or dark and light flavours.

 

[Mrboots2u]

Has anyone ever tried a mixed roast? So a 'balance' or dark and light flavours.

How would that extract evenly then? Or be dialled in

If your suggesting two or more beans at radical ends of the roasting spectrum?

 

[Mrboots2u]

How would that extract evenly then? Or be dialled in

If your suggesting two or more beans at radical ends of the roasting spectrum?

Or are you just suggesting a medium roast .

Can you expand please

 

[MWJB]

There is some truth in what dfk says, although it may be a simplification. The EK is known for its 'clarity' (which some dont enjoy) because of the even-ness of the particle sizes. A greater variation means a greater variation in the cup, the 'balance' is whats important.

But the EK does something, so far, recognised as unique & not necessarily an attribute of "flat burrs" universally. Any grinder that's letting you hit a nominal yield, with a good flavour must be hitting at least a satisfactory balance. Greater variation of extraction in the cup doesn't strike me as any more balanced...balance suggests equilibrium to me, so (off the top of my head for illustration purposes) an extraction that was say +/- 6% would be balanced at a desirable yield, as would a +/- 3%.

 

[4085]

But the EK does something, so far, recognised as unique & not necessarily an attribute of "flat burrs" universally. Any grinder that's letting you hit a nominal yield, with a good flavour must be hitting at least a satisfactory balance. Greater variation of extraction in the cup doesn't strike me as any more balanced...balance suggests equilibrium to me, so (off the top of my head for illustration purposes) an extraction that was say +/- 6% would be balanced at a desirable yield, as would a +/- 3%.

But you would expect this from a grinder with such a huge price tag. come down a few notches and compare say a Eureka MDL conical to an SJ......at £300

 

[Dylan]

Or are you just suggesting a medium roast .

Can you expand please

Fleeting thought that I hadn't put too much into. I did think that the first hurdle would be an extraction that wasn't all over the place, but generally has anyone experimented with the idea, or is it just a non starter?

 

[MWJB]

But you would expect this from a grinder with such a huge price tag. come down a few notches and compare say a Eureka MDL conical to an SJ......at £300

I'm not sure that price specifically has anything to do with it...there are other grinders in that range, not as yet identified as doing the same thing.

 

[jeebsy]

Fleeting thought that I hadn't put too much into.

That's unlike you