[GrahamSPhillips]

Thoughts? I've set up a flat 6 bar profile on my Vesuvius. So far? So mediocre!

 

[MW11]

2 hours ago, GrahamSPhillips said:

Amazing how welling people are to toy with espresso! However, I buy coffee beans which don't come in cheap that's why I'm not going to experiment like that. That's the main reason I passed on the decent, I think I can't handle that much control and to always tweak something wether it's flow, pressure or temperature. At least on the Leva I can only change temperature which is plenty for me 😂. I recall doing espresso on Profitec Pro 800 pi 10s then 30-40s shot time. Total was 40-50+ seconds which was amazing tbh! I hope I can do the same on the Leva. Will find out when it arrives.

 

[Eiffel]

I'm afraid this machine isn't for you @MW11 😁

The EVO Leva allows to play with much more than temperatures (with 3 adjustments rather than the usual 1 or 2, and in 1/2 degree increments rather than 'full' degrees)... there is pre-infusion pressure and duration, pressure profiling, max brew pressure and more (how much coffee in each basket, at which pressure/volume/weight to stop...)... combine this with the ability to try different springs, baskets, etc. and the permutations become near infinite...

This being said, I've been entertained by low end superautos for many years (getting decent espresso out of them is far from straightforward, at least it wasn't for me 😵)

 

[Denis S]

turbo shots are only for light-medium roasts. you dont want a fast flowing shot out of a more roasty bean. you get a nice chimney taste out of it, or water that was used to clean an ashtray.

The darker the roast the slower the flow to make a delicious shot. Turbo shots are an extreme thing to be able to pull something with mediocre grinders out of light roasted coffee. It was mainly used and discovered for coffee shops using specialty coffee beans, that would serve unbalanced sour or bitter/astringent shots because they went the classic way of pulling 1-2 ratio in 25-30 sec.

 

[The Systemic Kid]

I'm afraid this machine isn't for you @MW11 😁

The EVO Leva allows to play with much more than temperatures (with 3 adjustments rather than the usual 1 or 2, and in 1/2 degree increments rather than 'full' degrees)... there is pre-infusion pressure and duration, pressure profiling, max brew pressure and more (how much coffee in each basket, at which pressure/volume/weight to stop...)... combine this with the ability to try different springs, baskets, etc. and the permutations become near infinite...

Evo is as simple or as complicated as you want it to be. You don't need to spend a lot of time and effort zoning in on the sweet spot. It's very forgiving. Sure it can be tweaked and I look forward to benefiting from others' efforts in this respect.

That said, the flat profile set up I've been using with heaters set to 94c and boiler to 102c is producing very moreish shots with lighter roasts. Another thing I've noted is that the mouthfeel is appreciably more pronounced even at 1:2.5 than my previous machine - something I have been pleasantly surprised about.

 

[SL01]

.... I buy coffee beans which don't come in cheap that's why I'm not going to experiment like that....

@MW11How did you find out what I told my wife, word-for-word??

 

[MW11]

I'm afraid this machine isn't for you @MW11 😁

The EVO Leva allows to play with much more than temperatures (with 3 adjustments rather than the usual 1 or 2, and in 1/2 degree increments rather than 'full' degrees)... there is pre-infusion pressure and duration, pressure profiling, max brew pressure and more (how much coffee in each basket, at which pressure/volume/weight to stop...)... combine this with the ability to try different springs, baskets, etc. and the permutations become near infinite...

This being said, I've been entertained by low end superautos for many years (getting decent espresso out of them is far from straightforward, at least it wasn't for me 😵)

Damn you @Eiffel😡😤🥲

 

[Paolo5]

I have pulled maybe 25 shots with my Evo now.

I changed the temperature on the group and the shot boiler a few times today. It is great to be able to make a change on the PIDs that translates to actual temperature changes as quickly as the Evo allows.

 

[MW11]

I have pulled maybe 25 shots with my Evo now.

I changed the temperature on the group and the shot boiler a few times today. It is great to be able to make a change on the PIDs that translates to actual temperature changes as quickly as the Evo allows.

And??? I was waiting for the results of those 25 shots! With different temperatures 🤦🏻‍♂️
Did @Eiffeltell you to do this? (Tell them how many shots you made but say nothing about the taste 😈).
Details puhleeeease 🤲🏻

 

[The Systemic Kid]

Evo produces wonderfully micro-foamed milk😀

 

[MW11]

Evo produces wonderfully micro-foamed milk😀

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Someone is having too much fun with the Evo Leva😎

Looks delicious 🤤 I can't do Latte art but I don't drink much milk anyways

 

[DavecUK]

Someone is having too much fun with the Evo Leva😎

Looks delicious 🤤 I can't do Latte art but I don't drink much milk anyways

I believe Mrs TSK enjoys a milk drink, especially from the EVO....allows him to keep his hand in. I rarely make milk drinks and so I'm rubbish at Latte Art.

 

[The Systemic Kid]

I believe Mrs TSK enjoys a milk drink, especially from the EVO....allows him to keep his hand in. I rarely make milk drinks and so I'm rubbish at Latte Art.

Mrs Systemic has zero interest in coffee geekery. That said, have noticed an increase in 'mmm, this is nice' comment since the Evo arrived. Make of that what you will.

 

[Denis S]

I'm waiting here in silence for the arrival 😆 Maybe the end of the month comes faster.

Also have and will get more beans that will be rested for min 3-4 weeks and then frozen.

 

[The Systemic Kid]

Have you tried vacuum packing Denis?

 

[Denis S]

I rest my beans in roasters bags, after they are min 1 month, I squeeze all air out and then tape the valve, throw them into the freezer. I take out 1 max 2 doses each day from there and close the zip bag. I dont keep the bag outside.

Also have some jars/bottles (plastic and glass) with lids that are from roasters like Levercraft or Friedhats, and I put beans in there and let them be in the freezer. My coffee is really light and It needs min 15-20 days rest to be able to get nice taste out of it. Right now i'm using 2 beans:

Tim Wendelboe Nacimiento Pacas washed roaster on 31 May (not frozen)

Leuchtfeuer Funkelfeuer Ethiopia Natural roasted on ~15 May (frozen).

My next beans are Beansmith (5 bags) roasted on ~15 June (these are to the rest still for 1 more week).

All bags are filter roasts, roasted on Loring roasters most of the time (all above roast on Loring).

 

[The Systemic Kid]

Bean (sic) using a vacuum sealer for a few months and very pleased with the results. Don't bother freezing anymore.

 

[Like Medium Strong Coffee]

Bean (sic) using a vacuum sealer for a few months and very pleased with the results. Don't bother freezing anymore.

Where do you store the vac sealed beans?

Like Denis, I also freeze; but 2 x a KG each. But, typically draw 0.25 kg, reseal and throw them in the freezer. I used to split them into 8 x 0.25 KG before. I don't do it any more. No more plastics!

 

[The Systemic Kid]

Where do you store the vac sealed beans? How many bags of 0.25 kg do you freeze please ? Are they reusable plastics ?

Like Denis, I also freeze; but 2 x a KG each. But, typically draw 0.25 kg, reseal and throw them in the freezer. I used to split them into 8 x 0.25 KG before. I don't do it any more. No more plastics!

I vac into 250grm bags - last lot was 2.5kg. Don't bother with freezing. Guess it would be possible to re-use by using a slightly larger size and resealing but haven't tried that. Vacuuming keeps the beans surprisingly fresh.

Apologies for going off topic.

 

[MW11]

Great info. Keep it coming