[Mrboots2u]

I've not been paying much attention to the coffee scene online lately but I'm amazed by how petty things seem to have gotten and no that's not specifically aimed at the above commenters, more of a general observation.

Anyway back on topic, I'm considering a new machine but can't really find many/any stores selling this thing?

Long time no see.

 

[MW11]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-HMFYj9Y9Yc?feature=share

 

[GrahamSPhillips]

It's a shame that Reiss backed out of the Battle for the OK coffee Corral! But I'm sure we could find a couple of members one with an EvoLeva and one with an LR24, for an espresso shoot out. Any volunteers? The rules would be no egos just bring your taste buds and decide for yourself

 

[MW11]

It's a shame that Reiss backed out of the Battle for the OK coffee Corral! But I'm sure we could find a couple of members one with an EvoLeva and one with an LR24, for an espresso shoot out. Any volunteers? The rules would be no egos just bring your taste buds and decide for yourself

Ryan might compare the Leva to LR. Keep an eye on HB. Hopefully more reviews to come.

 

[iroko]

Reiss lives in New Zealand and the one who makes LONDINIUMS is Fracino https://www.fracino.com , so I'm not sure what Reiss brings to the table nor where he puts his mouth. Technical support? Reminded me of call centers in India. Same thing with Option-O or Weber they are all designers and salesmen where they promote grinders made in China but non of them did what Reiss did yesterday. Running businesses require level head people who handle themselves well and don't patronize others (especially if the competition makes the better product). I wanted to stop commenting on this cause it keeps derailing the thread which is about the ACS LEVA. If you all non LEVA owners want to talk about another machine then let's do it on another thread. I'll be more than happy to talk machines and compare all specs (I'm interested in other machines too).

Have you ever used an LR24, If not how can you say the competition makes a better product ?

Are you just basing that on the knocking of Londinium on this thread, by various people.

 

[MW11]

Have you ever used an LR24, If not how can you say the competition makes a better product ?

Are you just basing that on the knocking of Londinium on this thread, by various people.

No I haven't used one but I have a friend who has the LR24. He is going to buy the evo Leva soon and will give a full review (I trust his judgment and I will buy his LR24 if it wins! He changes gear very often). I would also love to see a comparison between the LEVA and a GS3 or any high end machine and I will put my evo Leva to the test against the mighty Strietman CT2 (if it loses then I'm going to sell it and find a better machine). I bought 2 high end grinders for espresso, so my machines should be at the same level as those grinders or I'm selling them and keep looking.

 

[Denis S]

I did not talk to Reiss after his offer, did not question him or anything. He just asked me to send my details on an email for the shipping of a LR24 (for sure I was not expecting a free machine, but a test unit to compare them side by side). Nobody comes out of the blue to give you free expensive stuff, unless you are some big name like James Hoffman and even then you would have to behave with them as with a sponsor with often made advertise publicity. I'm not that type.

He did not even ask me anything to clarify things, he just said that I'm moving to Sweden (it's not sweden it's Norway) and because of that he withdraws his offer. He did not even ask when or how many months left.

But I just saw today that he blocked me on instagram, and took away all his comments on my profile. I strongly believed he just wanted some attention on the internet, so he stirs the waters before Xmas so people might buy a few machines from him.

Good stuff that I know exactly how dirty and what time of man he is, so I took the screenshots, and will remind everyone on the forums and discord, and private chat groups what a scumm he really is.

So beware of the rats, and dont make good publicity about Londinium, whatever you are posting about it, let's make it about it's creator, cause if the maker is bad the machine can be good but wont save a business.

 

[Mrboots2u]

I did not talk to Reiss after his offer, did not question him or anything. He just asked me to send my details on an email for the shipping of a LR24 (for sure I was not expecting a free machine, but a test unit to compare them side by side). Nobody comes out of the blue to give you free expensive stuff, unless you are some big name like James Hoffman and even then you would have to behave with them as with a sponsor with often made advertise publicity. I'm not that type.

He did not even ask me anything to clarify things, he just said that I'm moving to Sweden (it's not sweden it's Norway) and because of that he withdraws his offer. He did not even ask when or how many months left.

But I just saw today that he blocked me on instagram, and took away all his comments on my profile. I strongly believed he just wanted some attention on the internet, so he stirs the waters before Xmas so people might buy a few machines from him.

Good stuff that I know exactly how dirty and what time of man he is, so I took the screenshots, and will remind everyone on the forums and discord, and private chat groups what a scumm he really is.

So beware of the rats, and dont make good publicity about Londinium, whatever you are posting about it, let's make it about it's creator, cause if the maker is bad the machine can be good but wont save a business.

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James Hoffman buys the machines he tests

and as for calling someone out for wanting attention in the internet , pot, kettle, black.

I believe you originally bought the Niche to " to make fun of Rao" ( like he cares )

and that if you have a niche you should give up making coffee all together ( great advice, aged well )

It looks like Reiss has spat hi dummy out but hey takes let him who hasn't cast the first dummy.,

 

[Denis S]

James Hoffman buys the machines he tests

and as for calling someone out for wanting attention in the internet , pot, kettle, black.

I believe you originally bought the Niche to " to make fun of Rao" ( like he cares )

and that if you have a niche you should give up making coffee all together ( great advice, aged well )

It looks like Reiss has spat hi dummy out but hey takes let him who hasn't cast the first dummy.,

buys the machines he tests them with patreon money and then donates them. Anyway I never liked you so I wont bother engaging a conversation with you. You dont own a Leva so I dont see why you post here.

I am in a friendly relation with Rao, and we speak often. He is using the Niche for espresso varieties on the DE from time to time, but for brewing his main is the Forte always was (the niche is only for photos) and now he has the ultra (but he did not test it much cause he was away traveling).

He is not a fan of espresso drinks, that is why you wont see a 1-2 ratio or close to that shot from him, unless it's 80-150g out or a variety of espresso with added water.

I do have a niche now (Second one) and admitted over the internet that I was wrong about it when I had the Decent, but I guess you dont follow my posts enough. I would kindly ask you to step out of this conversation, and if you want to talk to me about my other items (other than ACS Evo and now the Londinium) message me in private.

 

[Mrboots2u]

I have no feeling about you either way but I'll decline pming thanks and ill psot where I want to.

 

[iroko]

I did not talk to Reiss after his offer, did not question him or anything. He just asked me to send my details on an email for the shipping of a LR24 (for sure I was not expecting a free machine, but a test unit to compare them side by side). Nobody comes out of the blue to give you free expensive stuff, unless you are some big name like James Hoffman and even then you would have to behave with them as with a sponsor with often made advertise publicity. I'm not that type.

He did not even ask me anything to clarify things, he just said that I'm moving to Sweden (it's not sweden it's Norway) and because of that he withdraws his offer. He did not even ask when or how many months left.

But I just saw today that he blocked me on instagram, and took away all his comments on my profile. I strongly believed he just wanted some attention on the internet, so he stirs the waters before Xmas so people might buy a few machines from him.

Good stuff that I know exactly how dirty and what time of man he is, so I took the screenshots, and will remind everyone on the forums and discord, and private chat groups what a scumm he really is.

So beware of the rats, and dont make good publicity about Londinium, whatever you are posting about it, let's make it about it's creator, cause if the maker is bad the machine can be good but wont save a business.

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Your calling Reiss scum, I'm glad he's not sending you a machine, you wouldn't have given a fair review.

 

[Sharkie]

I did not talk to Reiss after his offer, did not question him or anything. He just asked me to send my details on an email for the shipping of a LR24 (for sure I was not expecting a free machine, but a test unit to compare them side by side). Nobody comes out of the blue to give you free expensive stuff, unless you are some big name like James Hoffman and even then you would have to behave with them as with a sponsor with often made advertise publicity. I'm not that type.

He did not even ask me anything to clarify things, he just said that I'm moving to Sweden (it's not sweden it's Norway) and because of that he withdraws his offer. He did not even ask when or how many months left.

But I just saw today that he blocked me on instagram, and took away all his comments on my profile. I strongly believed he just wanted some attention on the internet, so he stirs the waters before Xmas so people might buy a few machines from him.

Good stuff that I know exactly how dirty and what time of man he is, so I took the screenshots, and will remind everyone on the forums and discord, and private chat groups what a scumm he really is.

So beware of the rats, and dont make good publicity about Londinium, whatever you are posting about it, let's make it about it's creator, cause if the maker is bad the machine can be good but wont save a business.

Oh my word, what a friendly guy you are, as I have said before I have only ever had good interactions with Reiss, I don't agree with how he bit on instagram but you made some aggressive statements about which was the better machine when you have never had an LR24. I would love to see an unbiased comparison of the two machines, but am glad it is not you and your bile doing the comparison. Perhaps Reiss could really see the type of person you are.

Also not sure why you are attacking Mrboots2u who is one of the most valued members on this forum. You really should just chill out.

 

[Elephantoplasty]

OK guys, this used to be an interesting forum discussing a great new machine.

If you want to have a pissing contest, then please go somewhere else to do it so that the rest of us can continue to discuss the Vesuvius Evo Leva.

Thanks....

 

[gus6464]

I fail to see how the statement of the Londinium not having the same temperature stability as the Leva be an opinion. That is just a flat out fact because of their designs. Does the Londinium now have magical temperature elves inside of it?

Funny how you never see the representatives of reputable machine companies engage in online tomfoolery with anyone. Business 101.

 

[iroko]

The Londinium doesn't need magical temperature elves as it is designed to be temp stable.

 

[MediumRoastSteam]

The Londinium doesn't need magical temperature elves as it is designed to be temp stable.

I don't have any of the machines above, so coming as a total outsider, anyone can make claims as above, and it's just natural that coffee machine manufacturers will say their machines are temp stable. Why would they say otherwise?

Unless there's measurement and evidence, how can anyone prove any claims are true or false? The Lelit Elizabeth for example measures the temperature inside the brew boiler, and I trust the manufacturer settings I use give me the right temperature for brewing. But I too, fly blindly.

The V Evo has a pressure gauge and a thermometer on the group, so it can be verified and tuned accordingly.

Besides, what does temperature stability mean? Is it the ability to pull shots one after another without huge temp swings? Or is it the ability for a machine to sit idling at an optimal temperature? E.g.: we all know the E61 on an HX machine is temp stable as far as quick successions are concerned. But we also know that it overheats if left idling or will operate sub-optimally if the rebound time is not respected for a given machine.

As users and consumers of any coffee machine we need factual and measurable evidence, not design claims.

 

[Denis S]

The Londinium doesn't need magical temperature elves as it is designed to be temp stable.

keep telling that to yourself everyday maybe one day it will become real.

 

[Sharkie]

keep telling that to yourself everyday maybe one day it will become real.

Keep enjoying your Evo, for a few more months at least

 

[Paolo_Cortese]

I wish to everyone a Merry Christmas.

I would like to say that in a coffee machine there isn't any magician, the result usually is proportionally to what you put inside and not always the result is optimal. Generally if there are a single boiler hx machines and some more expensive dual boiler a reason should be find in order to spent more money to buy a db machine. I don't want to speak of other machines sometimes buy a machine is an emotional decision more than technical question, everyone have a different approach to the question the most important thing is to enjoy always every cup that someone are able to shot especially in this moment.
enjoy your holidays

Paolo Cortese

 

[Paolo5]

I wish to everyone a Merry Christmas.

I would like to say that in a coffee machine there isn't any magician, the result usually is proportionally to what you put inside and not always the result is optimal. Generally if there are a single boiler hx machines and some more expensive dual boiler a reason should be find in order to spent more money to buy a db machine. I don't want to speak of other machines sometimes buy a machine is an emotional decision more than technical question, everyone have a different approach to the question the most important thing is to enjoy always every cup that someone are able to shot especially in this moment.
enjoy your holidays

Paolo Cortese

I agree completely, Paolo!

Thankyou so much for making this wonderful machine. I enjoy using my Evo every day. I can get more magic from this machine than I had hoped for.

I wish you a fantastic Christmas and a wonderful 2022!