[MediumRoastSteam]

@Denis S - this is an outstanding result, after all. Hats down to Londinium on taking on the challenge and keeping their word. That's truly commendable.

Also I congratulate @Denis S on hosting the challenge and no doubt, based on what I've seen before, it will be a very objective comparison.

All in the name of coffee. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

looking forward to seeing the results!

 

[GrahamSPhillips]

It's a shame some of the debate has turned so nasty. I'm not pointing at anyone in particular. Coffee is such a fun geeky hobby and I've learned so much from some true experts here. Let's all take a chill pill and keep the debate friendly from here on in

 

[cuprajake]

Not nasty when you have some one on social media calling out a company they have never used,

That was the problem with this forum, and most know it, they went out of their way to try and destroy londinium whilst pushing the leva. And the niche to an extent when two of the main posters on this forum are friends with the owner of niche and one helped in the development then you're always going to have a different view on it, i can say this as i owned a niche and didnt like it.

It caused massive problems and $hit stiring from both sides, leading to not one, vut now two more coffee forums. this forum which was the best in the uk has massively suffered and ultimately will probably cease to exist because of it too, just because of too many egos

Thats the last ill say on the matter as its an ever going merry go round with jibe after jibe, theres mote than enough people to buy all coffee machines and grinders

 

[4085]

@Cuprajake I did not really want to have to log on again, but Jake, you speak with such authority whilst at the same time leaving an impression on members with your knowledge of a situation. The problems left this forum, when 17 or so members found themselves banned. Since that happened, does it not strike you as odd how the forum has settled down to the point that there is now no trouble. Does it not strike you as odd that many of those folks were Londinium acolytes?

Niche........I read about this British project in mid 2017. I emailed the company and then had a couple of chats with Martin. I was in hospital in August that year having had surgery when Martin rang me. From that chat, I approached the two Daves. One said the project did not really catch his imagination but since it was British he would chat with them. The other Dave said he was going on holiday and if Niche wanted to speak with him a couple of weeks.........so I introduced DaveC to Niche. Martin and Dave had never met before until Martin drove up with prototypes to Surrey. By the time the other Dave came back, the project was well under way. At the same time, the knocking of the product started.......sound familiar? None of them had seen a Niche but were quite prepared to diss it. I could go on and on and reveal a lot more that you probably are not aware of either, but I choose discretion.

The same tactic was deployed over the launch of the Evo. Not one of the 'knockers' had seen one, yet quite happy were they to get stuck in........why?...........because for the first time since launch in 2012, the status of Londinium was under threat.

The reason three coffee forums exist, is that those banned from here started their own. Then Tait sold CFUK out for the King's shilling. The new owners have a long history of forum purchase. They are not interested in the forum, just the database behind it. So, coffeetime was adapted to fit ********** and here we are.

 

[4085]

@Cuprajake I had to smile at this part of your post:

Not nasty when you have some one on social media calling out a company they have never used,

So, I remembered reading these comments made by Reiss

 

[MW11]

Not a single dollar will enter either one of your bank accounts. So chill and let's witness the Levers Battle 🥊. I've been honest and said it repeatedly that I don't like Reiss (it's a personality thing) but I respect his hard work and the phenomenal FaceTime support that he prides himself to provide. A lot of happy LR24 owners and we owe it to them to see this through! Two top lever machines in a head to head challenge!! Should be fun 🥳. I wonder if we could make an olympics for Levers? May the best pulls win 🥇

 

[Denis S]

You wont witness anything, Reiss withdraw his offer, as expected. Instead of people supporting this to make it happen, they went around my back and told Reiss I am selling my gear and moving to Norway. Yes I am moving to Norway in 3-4 months, and the test can still be done as I have all my gear and would have postphone the sell of my lever so I can compare it directly with LR24.

Why do you think I wrote to see both machines here before commenting?

 

[MW11]

Well, Reiss isn't a man of his word after all. You said that you're going to move to Norway multiple times on this forum and make no mistake that Reiss watches this thread like a hawk 😂, so he knew that right from the start. I would be threatened too if I were him and will keep a close eye on the competition! I heard that he bad mouths the ACS Leva on his forums without trying one too. Well, enough about the outdated single boiler Heat exchanger lever machine and back to the modern design dual boiler machine.

 

[Sharkie]

I really don't understand all the hate here, I own a londinium and am delighted with it, I am interested in the tech behind both the ACS Evo and the LR24. My interactions with Reiss have only ever been positive abd i bought a used machine not brand new.

I really think folk should just move on, this was a much nicer place when all the characters were around but alas for whatever reason they are not anymore!

 

[Mrboots2u]

All of this is ego, on both sides , inflated flim flam from people to raise profile or their self esteem, or god knows what

One side, whether you like him or not , at least puts his money where his mouth is a put a machine into the wild, at a time when new lever machines were few and far between.

Same with Decent , putts his money where his mouth is and makes something.

 

[MW11]

Reiss lives in New Zealand and the one who makes LONDINIUMS is Fracino https://www.fracino.com , so I'm not sure what Reiss brings to the table nor where he puts his mouth. Technical support? Reminded me of call centers in India. Same thing with Option-O or Weber they are all designers and salesmen where they promote grinders made in China but non of them did what Reiss did yesterday. Running businesses require level head people who handle themselves well and don't patronize others (especially if the competition makes the better product). I wanted to stop commenting on this cause it keeps derailing the thread which is about the ACS LEVA. If you all non LEVA owners want to talk about another machine then let's do it on another thread. I'll be more than happy to talk machines and compare all specs (I'm interested in other machines too).

 

[Mrboots2u]

Reiss lives in New Zealand and the one who makes LONDINIUMS is Fracino https://www.fracino.com , so I'm not sure what Reiss brings to the table nor where he puts his mouth. Technical support? Reminded me of call centers in India. Same thing with Option-O or Weber they are all designers and salesmen where they promote grinders made in China but non of them did what Reiss did yesterday. Running businesses require level head people who handle themselves well and don't patronize others (especially if the competition makes the better product). I wanted to stop commenting on this cause it keeps derailing the thread which is about the ACS LEVA. If you all non LEVA owners want to talk about another machine then let's do it on another thread. I'll be more than happy to talk machines and compare all specs (I'm interested in other machines too).

I have no horse in this race , I owned an early l1 sold it , wont own a acs but did own a Vesuvius (sold it)

again for those of us around a few years ago , you know how reiss brought a new lever to market , while living in the uk, yes manufactured at fracino. He put his money where his mouth is by backing, designing a new product to market and taking the risk , I have found reiss helpful and abrupt in equal measures but it's his baby and product and he clearly , roughly or wrongly , is passionate about it and backs it to the hilt.
it super hard nowadays to make anything in a time of social media and the internet where everyone is an expert and expects to be number one priority all the time ,

 

[gearosthyd]

Hey all,

Woke up this morning to my leva having the usual `AL. 11` error, which usually tells me to fill my tank.

After doing so, typically I expect the leva to make the usual pump sound and then a click of an element and the temperature begins to rise. Unfortunately, this morning, this did not happen. It's just stuck at 25c. All other elements appear to be functioning properly.

Anyone faced this issue before?

I tried checking the manual, and it spoke of taking the top off the machine to reveal the boilers, and then to press the little red button on top. I see no button except a bunch of wires.

If a boiler fails to heat, the machine has 2 resettable limit stats: Unplug machine and remove either upper or lower access panel to reset the relevant limit stat, by pressing the little red button in the centre. These are on the top of both boilers. If the problem recurs, contact your dealer for advice.

Currently, maximum annoyed. Caffeine headache and a machine that's less than 3 months that has a non-functioning boiler..... 😠

 

[pinky]

Wiggle the water level sensor tube and restart the machine. If the sensor is touching the wall of the water tank it can get stuck and think the water is not enough to refill the boiler.

 

[gearosthyd]

@pinky, didn't do anything. Plus, the A11 signal went away. also if I pull the lever the pump still works and is able to pull water from the tank.

 

[gearosthyd]

The issue has been fixed. Don't know how this happened, but at the bottom of the boilers are the electrical connectors. One of the boiler's electrical connectors was out of its socket. After reconnecting the connector, everything worked again.

I'd say to those coming from the future, if you run into the issue that your boiler is not working and the panel is showing heating is on, try these steps.

First take the right side panel off to reveal the electrical board. At the back there are two black SSR(Solid State Relays) that regulate the power to the boilers. There is a LED on each of the SSR's. They should be on when the element in the panel is on. If these LED lights are on, then that means the panel is trying to regulate the power of boilers and everything on that digital end is working. The next step I would suggest involves turning the machine on its side and taking the bottom panel off to expose the boiler wiring. Hopefully the issue is that one of the jumpers has come loose and is not connected. If it is connected and the boiler is not working, then unfortunately you'll probably have to contact ACS about your issue.

 

[gearosthyd]

Also the pressure knobs on top of the machine can be black!

 

[MW11]

I have no horse in this race , I owned an early l1 sold it , wont own a acs but did own a Vesuvius (sold it)

again for those of us around a few years ago , you know how reiss brought a new lever to market , while living in the uk, yes manufactured at fracino. He put his money where his mouth is by backing, designing a new product to market and taking the risk , I have found reiss helpful and abrupt in equal measures but it's his baby and product and he clearly , roughly or wrongly , is passionate about it and backs it to the hilt.
it super hard nowadays to make anything in a time of social media and the internet where everyone is an expert and expects to be number one priority all the time ,

I don't deny that he brought a lever to the market at that time and that lever had a lot of issues (you can check the coffee machinist posts on coffeesnobs.com.au + Reiss left H-B after some nasty drama at that time too). He worked on his design over the years and now it works (good for him). People who buy nice gear want their gear to be worth what they are paying for (they aren't getting it for cheap nor free) and they have every right to compare PRODUCTS and choose what suits them best (which one actually worth spending premium on). We are derailing the thread which is about the ACS LEVA! Still happy to engage in a more detailed spec comparisons and talk lever espresso machines on another thread. I will be more than happy to make a chart comparing LONDINIUMS LR24 to the ACS LEVA too (in the name of coffee of course).

@gearosthydThanks for sharing! I appreciate all the wealth of knowledge I can harvest from earlier owners. Keep us posted 👍🏻

 

[Mrboots2u]

I don't deny that he brought a lever to the market at that time and that lever had a lot of issues (you can check the coffee machinist posts on coffeesnobs.com.au + Reiss left H-B after some nasty drama at that time too). He worked on his design over the years and now it works (good for him). People who buy nice gear want their gear to be worth what they are paying for (they aren't getting it for cheap nor free) and they have every right to compare PRODUCTS and choose what suits them best (which one actually worth spending premium on). We are derailing the thread which is about the ACS LEVA! Still happy to engage in a more detailed spec comparisons and talk lever espresso machines on another thread. I will be more than happy to make a chart comparing LONDINIUMS LR24 to the ACS LEVA too (in the name of coffee of course).

@gearosthydThanks for sharing! I appreciate all the wealth of knowledge I can harvest from earlier owners. Keep us posted 👍🏻

Different forums bash different stuff.

This one hated the Strega , the Aussies and Yanks didnt like the L1 at first , but loved the Strega.

If everyone right ? Nope , are they a function of which large voices on forums have vested interests in different brands probably yes.

Even those that don't have vested interest in promoting something , are usually guilty of consciously or sub consciously trying to promote themselves.

 

[Mrboots2u]

@Cuprajake I did not really want to have to log on again, but Jake, you speak with such authority whilst at the same time leaving an impression on members with your knowledge of a situation. The problems left this forum, when 17 or so members found themselves banned. Since that happened, does it not strike you as odd how the forum has settled down to the point that there is now no trouble. Does it not strike you as odd that many of those folks were Londinium acolytes?

Niche........I read about this British project in mid 2017. I emailed the company and then had a couple of chats with Martin. I was in hospital in August that year having had surgery when Martin rang me. From that chat, I approached the two Daves. One said the project did not really catch his imagination but since it was British he would chat with them. The other Dave said he was going on holiday and if Niche wanted to speak with him a couple of weeks.........so I introduced DaveC to Niche. Martin and Dave had never met before until Martin drove up with prototypes to Surrey. By the time the other Dave came back, the project was well under way. At the same time, the knocking of the product started.......sound familiar? None of them had seen a Niche but were quite prepared to diss it. I could go on and on and reveal a lot more that you probably are not aware of either, but I choose discretion.

The same tactic was deployed over the launch of the Evo. Not one of the 'knockers' had seen one, yet quite happy were they to get stuck in........why?...........because for the first time since launch in 2012, the status of Londinium was under threat.

The reason three coffee forums exist, is that those banned from here started their own. Then Tait sold CFUK out for the King's shilling. The new owners have a long history of forum purchase. They are not interested in the forum, just the database behind it. So, coffeetime was adapted to fit ********** and here we are.

Glen sold the forum to tait…

They all wanted to make money from it, we live in a capitalist society for better or worse