[Mrboots2u]

Hi

it's unlikely that anyone will have had both. I suspect little has been done to the grinder which was it's weak point.

It you want to programme loads of drinks in then that's fine. Wouldnt be for me, but it's not aimed at me.

Try this link

[video=youtube;-rnehh3mETM]

 

[Mrboots2u]

Thanks for all the responses so far, love all the viewpoints.

I must try and find a stockist who have both versions to try side by side.

Im intrigued by the buy the best grinder, then get a machine comment.

Essentially I want an all in one machine, the wife wouldn't want multiple device cluttering her kitchen

A must have is the milk frother for the wife's hot chocolate and my and the daughters latte.

Years ago I had a regular Gaggia which I hated because of the single boiler (stuff getting cold), therefore a dual boiler is my starting point.

Also, I've looked at cheaper fully automatics and I haven't found one that I like sub £1000.

The Oracle looks nice as well, more like a coffee shop machine!!

is there something similar but better than the Oracle at the similar price point, I really don't know and would love to hear opinions.

btw, I'm not really into buying 2nd hand but will if it's a compelling package.

If you want something the whole family can use and predominantly for milk drinks get an oracle.

 

[Mrboots2u]

Disappointed in this machine, unlike the previous Sage Oracle you CANNOT adjust the coffee to pour by volume but only by time. This is a major flaw as most baristas will pour with volume not in seconds. I am selling mine because of this and keeping my original Oracle machine. Maybe Sage will upgrade the software once they sense they have messed up big time here. I confirmed this with Sage Appliances customer service before writing this review, they also seamed surprised to learn this as they were not aware of the issue. Hopefully Sage will reply with a solution to this post.

Not on here mate. Contact them direct . Oh and Most baristas use scales

Coming here to whinge about a company that doesnt post here , especially as a first post, isnt on really.