[DavecUK]

The good thing about buying a nice machine....how much you enjoy it. The bad thing is the fun of the chase is over for a long time, unless you flip machines often and have severe upgraditis whatever you have.

My problem is I love using different machines as long as they are good and interesting. There's a lot of fun in taming a new machine, learning how to get the best out of it and of course, the different innovations manufacturers have...it means I'm always learning.

 

[untoldex]

@DavecUK what routine works well for back-to-back shots on such small boiler? Especially for higher brewing temperatures like 95C. How long do you need to wait between shots and if any warming flushes are needed?

And second question, does it work to brew and steam at the same time? Or brew heating element gets priority and steam becoming weaker?

 

[DavecUK]

@DaveC 1.what routine works well for back-to-back shots on such small boiler? Especially for higher brewing temperatures like 95C. How long do you need to wait between shots and if any warming flushes are needed?

2. And second question, does it work to brew and steam at the same time? Or brew heating element gets priority and steam becoming weaker?

1. Just make the shots one after another, it's not a problem. no flushes are needed and it's ready when you are

2. Yes and there is no problem with steam power. It also doesn't affect the pressure of steam preinfusion if you steam during the preinfusion phase.

 

[Stanic]

@DavecUK thanks for the review of the Elizabeth

I'd be really torn between this and MaraX but fortunately I'm not 😂

 

[Apr1985]

It does sound but of an ideal machine (other than its more than I ideally wanted to spend). But I think it will last longer than upgraditis and it seems like Lelit make them somewhat upgradable with the new components.

@MediumRoastSteam you get one and let me know what you think 😁

 

[MediumRoastSteam]

It does sound but of an ideal machine (other than its more than I ideally wanted to spend). But I think it will last longer than upgraditis and it seems like Lelit make them somewhat upgradable with the new components.

@MediumRoastSteam you get one and let me know what you think [emoji16]

Working on it, meaning:

- Convincing wife - who doesn't drink coffee - that Liz can come and live with us and it will be just fine. She (Liz) won't get any attention from me; [emoji23]

- Thinking of selling the trusty old Pavoni and its accessories.

- explaining to the wife that the noise of a vibe pump is not much louder than pulling a lever.

- Planning a click and collect trip to BB - they are planning to offer that service soon. No, I do not trust curriers!

- Explain to my son why he can't have a new laptop this year.

I'll get there. Watch this space. [emoji106]

 

[eamon]

Thanks for the review. The "new normal" has me thinking about upgrading my coffee setup, and I like the look of lelit.

Are some of these improvements (quieter pump?) coming to the rest of the VIP line, e.g. the Victoria?

I'm a low volume user and will only make one (occasionally 2) cups at a time. Thinking this might be enough for my needs.

Thanks

 

[MediumRoastSteam]

Thanks for the review. The "new normal" has me thinking about upgrading my coffee setup, and I like the look of lelit.
Are some of these improvements (quieter pump?) coming to the rest of the VIP line, e.g. the Victoria?
I'm a low volume user and will only make one (occasionally 2) cups at a time. Thinking this might be enough for my needs.
Thanks

The Victoria is an interesting machine. In essence, the Elizabeth with one boiler. But, if you like milky drinks, I strongly advise you go for a dual boiler at least. The SBDU unit "will do", but having to heat up the boiler to steam temp, and then steam, is a pain, IMHO.

 

[cuprajake]

Alot cheaper too.

Is it an hx machine or more like a sage where your waiting a tad.

 

[MediumRoastSteam]

Alot cheaper too.
Is it an hx machine or more like a sage where your waiting a tad.

It's a SBDU (single boiler dual unit). One boiler, but the temp of the boiler operates at two bands: brew temp and steam temp. Like a Rancilio Silvia or a Gaggia Classic.

 

[DavecUK]

Thanks for the review. The "new normal" has me thinking about upgrading my coffee setup, and I like the look of lelit.

Are some of these improvements (quieter pump?) coming to the rest of the VIP line, e.g. the Victoria?

I'm a low volume user and will only make one (occasionally 2) cups at a time. Thinking this might be enough for my needs.

Thanks

I don't know I only got involved withe the Elizabeth and asked for changes. The Victoria I never got involved with or discussed with them. Not the level of machine I usually review.

 

[-Mac]

I think, barring a big lottery win, that this has just gone to the top of my list. Thanks for the details, Dave.

 

[MediumRoastSteam]

@DavecUK - I have two questions.

1) I could not see I'm the review. Does the Elizabeth comes with a kettle cord / cable like the MaraX?

2) you mention in the maintenance sway: "Use 16g of coffee, this seems to be a sweet spot with the Lelit baskets and the specific group used on the Elizabeth". Why is this the sweet spot for the specific group used on the Elizabeth?

Thanks!

 

[DavecUK]

1. Yes

2. I think the shower screen is a fraction lower, I just found for me 16g worked well. Of course larger doubles are available I was just using regular baskets usually intended for 14 to 16g that we often overload to 18g.

 

[njlhyde]

1. Yes
2. I think the shower screen is a fraction lower, I just found for me 16g worked well. Of course larger doubles are available I was just using regular baskets usually intended for 14 to 16g that we often overload to 18g.

Hi Dave

A quick question relating to basket and dosing.

I notice with some coffees that 18g "fills" (not tamped) my 18g VST basket nicely but the same weight with other beans comes a little short.

Is it better to obtain the 2:1 ratio only by grind on the latter or should I increase the dose weight as well?

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[DavecUK]

Hi Dave

A quick question relating to basket and dosing.

I notice with some coffees that 18g "fills" (not tamped) my 18g VST basket nicely but the same weight with other beans comes a little short.

Is it better to obtain the 2:1 ratio only by grind on the latter or should I increase the dose weight as well?

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It's never exact...for some higher density coffees I might fill baskets with 1g more than with lower density coffees....it doesn't matter what machine. Then I adjust the ratio to suit. I only do this though if the difference in volume is very marked....after tamping.

Also, some coffees grind up fluffier than others....don't know why, not bothered to think about it (mind too busy, not enough CPU time)...but it does happen for sure.

 

[Aamz23]

So this is better than a mara x?

Wheres the link to buy?!

 

[DavecUK]

So this is better than a mara x?

Wheres the link to buy?!

I did a google search for you and came up with this.

https://www.bellabarista.co.uk/lelit-elizabeth-pl91t.html

 

[Aamz23]

I did a google search for you and came up with this.

https://www.bellabarista.co.uk/lelit-elizabeth-pl91t.html

You're a good un!

 

[DavecUK]

You're a good un!

Theres even a very detailed review on it and videos...