Londinium 1 vs R
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Could happily live with an L1 and as of this post there is some well looked after secondhand offerings available , so it would be hard not to consider these , is the LR better . ? Yes but surely you knew that answer beforehand , if you are saving a grand that's a lot of money towards something else , will the niche be up to the job of bringing out the best in either of these machines I can't answer , however I would hazard a guess you would want large flat burrs soon after whatever machine you choose .
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South Shields. I bought his Zenith off him last year and he was kind enough to make me a delicious coffee on his L1 when I went to collect [emoji1305] at the time I was more interested in the grinder purchase to make sure all was in order(I needn't have worried it was pristine) but it was only afterward I realised how great and how quiet the L1 was. There's something tactile about it all that appeals to me. I've recently moved house so worktop space isn't an issue anymore either. Decisions decisions...dfk41 said:
Where are you at @dfk1? Do you have an L1 also?
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There is something quite special about a plumbed in l1
The L1 when it is plumbed in is great and totally silent. The new ones though seem to shun being plumbed in, as they say with a rotary pump, why would you bother plumbing in? Andy bought his L1 after a visit to myself. I have had to get rid of mine as I moved and can not plumb in in the current kitchen. I do have a high end Orchestrale Nota though which offers an alternate to a dual boiler without the need to do cooling flushes. If ever you cross the water to the right side, you would be more than welcome!
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Ah he never mentioned I thought he had it from new. I'm guessing doing a water tank feed with one of those auto-doohickey things on the L1 isn't feasible? I'm not able to plum in currently though may be able to in the future when our kitchen gets redone. I'm not familiar with Orchestrale Nota, though I'll probably do some googling after this to check it out. Thanks for bringing it to my attention as a possible alternative [emoji1303]dfk41 said:
everyone will tell you the kit they have is the best, but I did not mean it in that way. I like things that are perhaps not so mainstream. An HX is a doddle to descale if you need to, only having one boiler. I am not saying all dual boilers are difficult to descale as some have drain taps. But, if you question what you need. A dual boiler lets you turn the steam boiler off which is great if you do not take milk, but not as good if you do. If you make just a couple of drinks at a time, then there is no real advantage to any machine. If you make several drinks on the trot on a regular basis then recovery time and temp feature, but, this is a coffee forum and so many of us have kit which we do not really need if the truth were known. You can have the best kit in the world but you still have to know how to use it!
The L1 and LR come tank fed but you can get plumb in kits for them, but to me, the whole point is to have a quiet machine, so I could never own a lever which was not plumbed in, if that makes sense
The L1 and LR come tank fed but you can get plumb in kits for them, but to me, the whole point is to have a quiet machine, so I could never own a lever which was not plumbed in, if that makes sense
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Just disect the the orchestrales name!
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