[Apr1985]

How tall does it need to be? I'm not sure how violently the grinds shoot out of the Niche, but maybe something 2cm would be OK?

Couple of weeks to come from China:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Iycorish-Stainless-Anti-Flying-Accessories-Portafilter/dp/B0876PCNG1/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2L3LAU914JBD7&dchild=1&keywords=54mm+dosing+funnel&qid=1590863370&s=kitchen&sprefix=54mm+dosing+%2Ckitchen%2C165&sr=1-3

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aluminum-Intelligent-Replacement-Portafilter-Accessories/dp/B082WWBPCP/ref=sr_1_15?crid=2L3LAU914JBD7&dchild=1&keywords=54mm%2Bdosing%2Bfunnel&qid=1590863886&s=kitchen&sprefix=54mm%2Bdosing%2B%2Ckitchen%2C165&sr=1-15&th=1

I have had a look at those but they don't say how wide they are the top.
ideally I am looking for one to go from niche cup to PF rather than direct in the PF.
should probably start a new thread 🤔

 

[Joe shorrock]

Is it this one you are looking at?

https://www.orphanespresso.com/OE-IPANEMA-Tall-Aluminum-Portafilter-Dosing-Cylinder_p_2540.html

been watching it since before I ordered my Niche and the 53 has never come into stock (or I have missed it).

This looks interesting if you can get hold of a printer

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4404925

if anyone does have a printer and would like to print me one happy to pay materials and postage 😀

Nah you looked on orphan expresso web shop they sell 53.5mm funnels still in stock now, work out about £38 shipped from us

 

[24774]

I have had a look at those but they don't say how wide they are the top.
ideally I am looking for one to go from niche cup to PF rather than direct in the PF.
should probably start a new thread 🤔

Aah I see. I'll keep an eye out.

 

[24774]

I have had a look at those but they don't say how wide they are the top.
ideally I am looking for one to go from niche cup to PF rather than direct in the PF.
should probably start a new thread 🤔

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/786583863/niche-zero-grinder-to-brevillesage?ref=search_srv-4

That's what Jony is offering if you can get the pattern. If not it's expensive but not too bad.

 

[Joe shorrock]

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/786583863/niche-zero-grinder-to-brevillesage?ref=search_srv-4

That's what Jony is offering if you can get the pattern. If not it's expensive but not too bad.

Yeah I saw that looks decent!

 

[24774]

Yeah I saw that looks decent!

Does look pretty solid doesn't it. Good thickness.

 

[Apr1985]

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/786583863/niche-zero-grinder-to-brevillesage?ref=search_srv-4

That's what Jony is offering if you can get the pattern. If not it's expensive but not too bad.

Initial price isn't tooo bad but then the shipping is about the same again.

I think this is the pattern
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4404925

 

[Joe shorrock]

Initial price isn't tooo bad but then the shipping is about the same again.

I think this is the pattern
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4404925

Just buy orphan expresso one mate 😉

 

[Caffeinated_fiend]

I have the 3D printed Niche funnel bought from Etsy, it is pretty good, Niche comes in June but I still use the funnel now and it makes life easy. Locks onto the bottom via the slots. View attachment 39508

I also have the Motta which I don't like as it sits too deep in the portafilter, I have the Chinese distribution tool as well but I'm starting to think that tapping the basket level and then flat to get the air pockets out maybe the better option. I'm not sure the double tamp effect of the distribution tool and then tamper is great.

 

[Joe shorrock]

I have the 3D printed Niche funnel bought from Etsy, it is pretty good, Niche comes in June but I still use the funnel now and it makes life easy. Locks onto the bottom via the slots. View attachment 39508

I also have the Motta which I don't like as it sits too deep in the portafilter, I have the Chinese distribution tool as well but I'm starting to think that tapping the basket level and then flat to get the air pockets out maybe the better option. I'm not sure the double tamp effect of the distribution tool and then tamper is great.

That the one made for the niche?

 

[Caffeinated_fiend]

That the one made for the niche?

It is yeah.

 

[Joe shorrock]

It is yeah.

Looking at one of them aswell for niche, prob end up getting one now shipping gone down.. gone for orphan funnel atm

 

[djam]

So as we know, us Sage owners don't have that many options with regard to portafilters, baskets, distribution tools, tampers etc. I bought the Motta 54mm distribution tool, which while being very well made, did not go low enough I found. The minimum was between 7mm and 8mm. For me to get this to sit/spin on the portafilter rim with 19g of coffee (a common amount for me with the coffees I have been using), I had to crush the coffee down so hard I couldn't pull a shot. It just choked. Some people have had my experience, others have used the tool just fine. It's nice kit, just didn't work for me.

So I sold the tool and looked about for one that went to 5mm or below as I still wanted to see if this kind of product would have an effect on my shots. If you have had my experience but still want a tool, I can recommend this cheap alternative on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B087WXBZQX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I know buying from China can be a risk, but £16.99 and with Amazon protection I thought give it a go. At least it's a little something to look forward to during lockdown right! Anyway, I got it yesterday, exactly 2 weeks after I ordered it. It seems well made, feels heavy enough, 419g, (that's heavier than the Motta according to Amazon, but can anyone verify what the Motta tool weighs?).

I have it set at 5mm, use it, then tamp. Shot today was definitely better. Will need to use for a week or so to see if it was luck. Anyway, point of this is to say, if you didn't get on with the Motta tool, this is a cheap, legit, Chinese alternative that worked out well for me.

EDIT: Delivery is actually £2.48, forgot about that. Seems the price has gone up in 2 weeks. Mine was £18.49 all in. So it's now £19.47 all in. Still a very good deal.

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Ordered one of these off the back of this thread at end end of May... delivery expected mid July but it arrived today!

Very impressed with the quality and seemed to work perfectly at the lowest setting.

Thanks for the suggestion @CocoLoco

 

[Apr1985]

Certainly not cheap but these come in a 53.3mm which is interesting

https://stanthonyind.com/collections/wood_metal

the Levy and the Wedge

 

[24774]

Ordered one of these off the back of this thread at end end of May... delivery expected mid July but it arrived today!

Very impressed with the quality and seemed to work perfectly at the lowest setting.

Thanks for the suggestion @CocoLoco

Nice, glad to hear it went well. It's a solid option I think, glad someone else found it so too.

 

[Griffo]

As I thought it's absolutely fine. It's the same size basket (54mm), I just wondered about the wall slope, but it's fine. I put 9g in the basket, used my tool and it gave me a nice flat surface.

Just ordered one - hopefully won't take forever to come!

 

[24774]

Just ordered one - hopefully won't take forever to come!

Good luck!

 

[Wisey]

@CocoLoco

how are you finding the tool? Thinking of a motta at £30 but If this is doing the job I'm gona go for it

I watched a hoon review who was using 16/17g coffee, is this because the smaller sage baskets won't fit anymore coffee in?

 

[Caffeinated_fiend]

Certainly not cheap but these come in a 53.3mm which is interesting

https://stanthonyind.com/collections/wood_metal

the Levy and the Wedge

I saw this and thought it looked very nice, pricey but good quality.

@CocoLoco

how are you finding the tool? Thinking of a motta at £30 but If this is doing the job I'm gona go for it

I watched a hoon review who was using 16/17g coffee, is this because the smaller sage baskets won't fit anymore coffee in?

I wouldn't recommend the Motta, in my opinion it sits too deep in the basket, although some people on here seem to like it. The Chinese tools can usually be used at say 5mm to distribute and then tamped, or you could set it to the depth of the razor tool that comes with the Sage for dosing. Hoon is using the Barista express which recommends a dose between 16-19g depending on bean density. The Barista Pro is 19-22g and the Bambino is the same as the express. I asked Sage why the Barista Pro recommends a higher amount but they have yet to answer me as it's the same basket. It was speculated that the thermojet generates more pressure but the bambino has the thermojet so who knows. Good luck getting 22g in though.

I like Hoon and watch his videos but I have to turn them of quite frequently now, as he never weighs his outputs and rarely times then, also most of the time you look at his shots and think, wow what a gusher. As long as they taste good to him though, plus he has a Niche sitting there and 9/10 times he's using the built in Barista Express grinder 🤪

 

[Wisey]

@CocoLoco

How many g does the DTP recommend?

hahah, hmm I'm not convinced on hoon, as you say I noticed has a niche sat there and he's using the built in BE.

in his Saint Anthony distributor video he made me laugh as he called it something else - like a Saint Thomas 😂😂