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Barista Express vs. Barista Pro

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I spoke to a customer rep from Sage who then spoke with her supervisor. Apparently all of their machines including the Pro brew at 93c but due to the way in which the thermojet system works, the temp in the cup will be lower - you can then "drink it immediately". I also came across this in statement in a different thread on here in regards to the BT.

The water from the hot water spout measures 72c in a preheated cup vs. 80c on the BE - I haven't even adjusted the temp on the BE from default. Serving an Americano from the Pro will cool down far too quickly. Warm water to lukewarm espresso :)

I assume all Sage thermojet machines will behave in the same way unfortunately.
It's pretty normal for espresso to be 60-70c in the cup.

Why not top up with hot water from a regular kettle for your Americano?

Or, if your Americano isn't massive, try brewing the desired amount in one go?

WHO recently published a report on hot drinks, suggesting any drinks over 60c weren't good for you.
 
I was measuring 60-65c in a dual wall espresso cup preheated with boiling water. In a 240ml ceramic cup "preheated" with water from the spout on the pro, it measured 50c.

I don't mind topping up with hot water from the kettle, but in my mind it renders the spout on the pro redundant as it does not perform its intended function.

The issue is also with the time between making the drink and it being consumed a few minutes later, if you have guests for example. If you start with a hot drink you can take your time and savour it as it cools, as opposed to rushing to drink it whilst it's still warm.
Let's say it takes you 2 to 2.5 minutes to make each drink, you're never going to have the first guest waiting for their shot to cool, by the time the 5th drink is out.

If you want coffee for several people, at Americano strength, all at the same time - then a drip filter machine or a large French press or two would be better. Otherwise, you'll just have to serve the drinks one by one, knowing the first will be consumed by the time the last is ready.

For your drinks to be hot for some time, they have to be large & very hot to begin with. With espresso, even if the brew water is hot when it hits the puck, it is basically going to be pushed through 1/4 to 1/3 of it's own weight in room temperature wood. That's got to drop the temp.