[DavecUK]

Consider what you already spent + what you're thinking of spending add to that what you might spend in 3 years time. All for machines that don't really make proper espresso.That sort of money can get you a really nice used prosumer machine that will last decades. It will also make proper espresso and much better steamed milk drinks because it will properly steam milk.

 

[DavecUK]

What prosumer machine would you recommend for 200€? Sadly I have no way of knowing if the person selling took care of it or not.

I'd gladly spend more money, my non-coffee drinking wife however disagrees

Milk I'm not planning to use the wand, I got a seperate milk frothner to save me some time (froth and brew at the same time)

I would not recommend any used prosumer for 200 euro and that's not an amount of money I recommended?

Until you use a real steam wand with good steam, you will have little idea of the huge difference it makes to the milk.