[danielpugh]

Yes it's just 3 day lockdown, although sounds like Europe still up in the air till vaccine takes off there. Post about parts was under the latest pics (p24/coffeetime) - virus affects parts more than the people.

I'll go with May if that's what Paolo says. Generally lockdown and customs are the big delays recently (I've had a microphone on order since November in Holland, fibre hdmi cable took 2 months to arrive etc). Am going to stay positive.

 

[DavecUK]

I know getting parts for coffee machines is a problem for all the manufacturers out there. I suppose in some ways it's good because it's a country that really needs its businesses to recover.

 

[rusty pie]

Talking about grinders, will a baratza sette 270wi grind sufficiently well to get the best out of the V?

 

[MediumRoastSteam]

Talking about grinders, will a baratza sette 270wi grind sufficiently well to get the best out of the V?

can't see why not. The issue with those grinders have never been the quality of the grind, but the fact they are loud and don't seem to be very reliable.

 

[profesor_historia]

can't see why not. The issue with those grinders have never been the quality of the grind, but the fact they are loud and don't seem to be very reliable.

Because they are made mostly of plastic.

 

[Like Medium Strong Coffee]

I am sure we all know the VAT situation. I checked with Paolo re-the VAT, if I were to order this machine.

The €2650 doesn't seem to include the VAT. Both the VAT and import duty are definitely payable upon arrival on our shores on the invoiced amount.

 

[DavecUK]

@Like Medium Strong Coffee I really can't comment except to say, I paid the VAT+handling charge on the declared value of the Frankenstien Alpha test bed. It wasn't as much as I'd feared. but of course it has to be paid.

So even with the VAT you fear you will pay, it's still way cheaper than anything else with those capabilities and uses a group that costs 40% more than the Fiorenzato group. Of course as always, Caveat Emptor. You could simply wait and see what other people paid by asking them via pm. If you like the price order in the May, or perhaps by then June build. If the price doesn't change, then you will know exactly where you stand.

 

[4085]

For those interested, here is a link to an update on coffeetime

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vesuvius/1-group-vostok-dual-boiler-lever-or-is-it-t430-s280.html#p6308

 

[Holonomic]

For those interested, here is a link to an update on coffeetime

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vesuvius/1-group-vostok-dual-boiler-lever-or-is-it-t430-s280.html#p6308

@dfk41 thank you for this update!

@Like Medium Strong Coffee this was/is also a concern I had.. I have discussed this/researched it... not too concerned and as Dave has said, it is still a fair price for the machine even with the VAT.

I am so very excited for this to turn up, half tempted to retire my brewtus IV early and use a chemex or something while I wait for this to turn up

 

[danielpugh]

@dfk41 thank you for this update!

@Like Medium Strong Coffee this was/is also a concern I had.. I have discussed this/researched it... not too concerned and as Dave has said, it is still a fair price for the machine even with the VAT.

I am so very excited for this to turn up, half tempted to retire my brewtus IV early and use a chemex or something while I wait for this to turn up

As someone who has been using a v60 for what seems like forever (about a month, and 2 months to go) - whilst it will make you appreciate good coffee when it arrives, it is a double edged sword. Not helped by my family giving me coffee subscriptions for my Birthday resulting in a surplus.

Not worried otherwise.

 

[Holonomic]

Could anyone confirm which baskets will ship with the vostok? I can see myself getting a VST 18g basket (even if the one included is more than useable) unless this is the one which is included?

Anyone have any thoughts on tempers?

 

[Jony]

Links are on the other forum, basket is OK

 

[danielpugh]

I'm going IMS for basket (b662th32m) and screen (sm200im), possibly silicon group gasket.

Tampers are a bit harder - was looking at torr, but their site seems stuffed for all payment types.

IMS do a matching 54.4 which I have just found supplier for in the uk

Heavy tamper do a 15.5 from czech, IMS say 15.4 so sticking to that.

There is a custom tamper maker on etsy - alperwood that looks nice, good feedback. But pricey with shipping.

There are some other options like Pullman, but gets steep quick...

 

[Jony]

Yup I cannot get to check out, I'm going to email them I've tried everything to go through checkout!! Make sure the UK have actual stock on the basket

 

[danielpugh]

Yup I cannot get to check out, I'm going to email them I've tried everything to go through checkout!! Make sure the UK have actual stock on the basket

something not right for Torr - emailed twice, no response. Trustpilot on Torr toys is not good. The error is because they payment link is broken for both paypal and card. Feels like nobody there. Compare that to an email to IMS over the weekend, and a response at 8am this morning.

(That said, maybe just a temporary covid thing)

 

[4085]

I bought one of these in black. Not expensive and will do until she arrives and I get used.

https://www.edesiaespress.com/53mm-coffee-espresso-tamper-choice-of-hardwood-handles-flat-stainless-steel-base/

 

[danielpugh]

I'm going IMS for basket (b662th32m) and screen (sm200im), possibly silicon group gasket.

Tampers are a bit harder - was looking at torr, but their site seems stuffed for all payment types.

IMS do a matching 54.4 which I have just found supplier for in the uk

Heavy tamper do a 15.5 from czech, IMS say 15.4 so sticking to that.

There is a custom tamper maker on etsy - alperwood that looks nice, good feedback. But pricey with shipping.

There are some other options like Pullman, but gets steep quick...

In case anyone finds it useful - apologies for duplication:

Generally LSM has some variance in basket size between 53 for a single and 54.5 for a double depening on manufacturer.
IMS has a recommended tamper size of 54/54.4. From reading through feedback on the Alex Leva accesories thread (Vostok uses the same group design in theory, but not cartridge heated). From recommendations on the same thread - deeper basket with a bit of a gap between the shower screen/circlip is recommended. There were several comments about the stock (Leva) screen flow being a little "ragged". Obviously all of above may be irrelevant, but i thought doesnt harm to plan in advance as some of this stuff has a bit of a lead time.

single basket - B662TH26M
double basket - B662TH32M
screen - sm200im (sm200nt for the posh nano version)
54.4 inox steel tamper base - BAAC54.4F

I emailed IMS who gave me a contact at the UK distributor and who in turn pointed me to:
Give it to the beans / sales@giveitthebeans.co.uk /Adrian

Tamper base is 14.70 + VAT (and postage), and will a few weeks on order from Italy. The handles all mention M10 in the description so i guess this is the thread size which i think is the same as a Motta (TBC - based on a google search).

Im also getting a handle, basket and shower screen at the same time as decent pricing/reduced total cost of postage.
Total cost of £55.49 + VAT + P&P

seems reasonable to me

in parallel - Paulo just posted more pics of the first test machine on coffeetime!

 

[Holonomic]

Thank you all, great input!

However is there any reason for you both going IMS over VST?

I did have both with my DB machine and settled on the VST hence why I was considering one again over the IMS

 

[danielpugh]

Thank you all, great input!

However is there any reason for you both going IMS over VST?

I did have both with my DB machine and settled on the VST hence why I was considering one again over the IMS

No reason at all - i was led by the search for a tamper particularly.

I have the feeling there may not be a VST basket/screen for san marco, but very much could be wrong...

 

[The Systemic Kid]

No reason at all - i was led by the search for a tamper particularly.

I have the feeling there may not be a VST basket/screen for san marco, but very much could be wrong...

Pretty sure VST don't do 54mm baskets